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The Environmental Health Manager introduced a report
regarding the Statement of Licensing Policy for Sex Establishments and reminded
the committee of the issues raised at the June meeting.
Public Speaker Mr Bartlett Owner of Talk of the Town
Mr Bartlett explained that he had hoped to submit a petition
of support for his club to the Licensing Committee, however, it was noted that
it had been submitted after the deadline for this meeting. Mr Bartlett stated
that he had 400 signatures and 2,000 on line supporters for his club.
Mr Bartlett stated that his main purpose in attending was to
demonstrate the level of support for his establishment and opposition to a “nil
policy”.
Public Speaker Dr Belinda Brooks-Gordon
Dr Brooks-Gordon explained that she was speaking in the
capacity as an academic rather than a County Councillor, and raised the
following points
·
Evidence from objectors refers to the theory of
objectification. However, this is only one theory relating to the sex industry
and there are others, which contradict this.
·
Much of the academic research regarding lap-dancing
clubs has been discredited.
·
Recent police evidence to central government
demonstrated that in general, clubs do not give rise to an increase in
disorderly behaviour.
·
Club users value a discrete venue and are unlikely to
be unruly in the vicinity.
·
Evidence from female staff of clubs suggests that they
value the flexibility and the earning potential of clubs.
·
Female students sometimes use this to pay for their
education.
·
Dancers state that what they want is clean changing
rooms, safe locker areas and fair treatment from club owners.
Public Speaker Ms Emma-Rose Cornwall
Ms Cornwall raised the following points:
·
Would like an explanation for the £30,000 cost quoted
in the report.
·
There is already extensive research into this issue
available.
·
Research shows a link between lap-dancing clubs and
anti-social behaviour and violent attacks.
·
Whether other costs been considered such as the cost
associated with the rise in violent assault and rape?
·
The spend of £30,000 could be seen as good value for
money if it protects local women.
·
Police lack resources to deal with rape, which is
widely regarded as under reported.
·
Would the policy lead to repeated applications as clubs
apply to different Wards across the City in an attempt to find an area that
would not reject the application?
·
No Ward in the City is likely to welcome a lap-dancing
club.
Members questioned the connection between lap-dancing and
increased crime, as the evidence does not support this. Members also pointed
out that the adoption of a nil policy would not prevent applications, all of
which would be considered on their merits. The costs of repeat applications
would be borne by the applicant.
Public Speaker Norah Al-Ani of Cambridge Rape Crisis
Centre
Ms Al-Ani suggested that 10 other authorities had followed
Hackney’s example and had adopted nil policies. She stated that the they had
done this without costly consultations. For example, Portsmouth had spent no
more on this consultation exercise and on any other consultation.
She suggested that the existing body of research on the
subject could be applied to the local situation. She expressed the view that it
was in the best interest of Cambridge to introduce a nil policy.
The Chair stated that legal guidance had been considered and
that a nil policy could not be adopted for the entire City. Consultation would
be needed Ward by Ward. She stated that it was important that the committee
consider what it is able to do rather than what it might like to do.
In response to members questions, Ms Al-Ani stated that
research in Camden suggested a link between sexual entertainment venues and
increased violent crime.
Ms Al-Ani concluded by saying that Cambridge may not have
any issues at present but more clubs could result in increased crime.
Public Speaker Dr Janie Huber
Dr Huber raised the following points
·
Concerns about the transparency of the process of
reconsidering a decision that had been agreed in June. She expressed disquiet
that the decision was being looked at again due to costs.
·
Cambridge is ahead of the game nationally.
·
Newspaper headlines recently suggested that female
students were funding their education via the sex industry. Does the committee
want this to happen in Cambridge?
·
The industry is aggressive and lucrative and could
change the nature of Cambridge as a City.
·
Lap-dancing clubs are degrading.
·
A clear decision was taken in June and the necessary
consultation should be carried out.
The Chair clarified the issues from the last meeting. The
recommendations had included the line “based on analysis”, which had been taken
from the Hackney decision. However, Cambridge had undertaken no analysis and
therefore the decision was based on incomplete information. To-date there had been no case law to
support nil policy decision and the evidence from other authorities is not as
clear as it appears. Members should also consider the fact that any decision
would impact on people’s livelihoods. It was noted that the decision could
leave the Council open to Judicial Review Challenge, so it was important that
the decision was based on robust evidence.
The Solicitor advised the committee that any policy must be
lawful and based on relevant information.
Members discussed the meaning of a relevant locality.
Applying this to every Ward would, de facto, apply the nil policy to the entire
City. Members were advised that they would need to decide not just what were
relevant localities but also the reasons behind that decision for each locality.
Members questioned the costs of consultation, which appeared
to be much higher than the consultation on Taxis, and why these costs had not
been known at the June meeting. The Head of Refuse and Environment responded
that original report had considered consulting the City as a whole. A nil
policy at Ward level would need to be more detailed and this level of detail
had not been envisaged or costed in the original report.
The Chair reminded the committee that the original policy
had been straight- forward in stating that each case would be considered on its
merits. A nil policy would not change this requirement. She further stated that
the situation locally had been one of very few applications and there was no
reason to expect this to change.
Members raised the following points:
I.
Pre-determining an area of relevant locality could be
problematic, as the Ward boundaries do not correspond to natural community
boundaries.
II.
There appears to be little to gain from the nil policy
as all cases would still be heard by committee.
III. The
June decision had been based on incomplete information and showed no clear
links to the corporate vision.
Councillor Brown suggested that case analysis of the
Peterborough Case supported the assertion that whilst designating the whole
authority, as single locality was inappropriate, there was significant
flexibility about the definition of localities.
Councillor Blencowe and Councillor Pogonowski were concerned
that opposition spokespersons had not been informed that the consultations
agreed in June, were not taking place. The Chair stated that she had asked for
this to happen and shared their concern if had not.
Councillor Blencowe also stated that the budget
considerations were not relevant to the discussion. He suggested not
implementing a decision of a regulatory committee was unsatisfactory.
The Executive Councillor for Environmental and Waste
Services, Councillor Swanson stated that there was no funding for this
consultation in the present budget. If the committee decided to go ahead with
the consultation process, a bid for funding could be made next year.
Members discussed the need to adopt a policy by the 1st
December 2011. The following additional points were raised:
IV. Additional
clauses could be added at a later date if needed.
V.
Existing premises would need to re apply.
VI. Any
policy would need to reflect the diverse nature of Cambridge.
VII. Removing
the figure of £30,000 and replacing this with a lower figure.
VIII. Minor
changes to the original policy would be needed to ensure it was gender neutral.
IX. The
need for an evidence based approach to the decision.
The Chair proposed the following amended recommendations for
consideration:
That the recommendations be
amended to read:
To adopt a Sex Establishment
Policy as originally proposed on 6th June 2011 un-amended.
To instruct officers to carry out
appropriate research, consultation and analysis regarding the nil per ward
policy agreed by committee on 6th June 2011 and to present their
findings to a subsequent meeting of the Licensing Committee.
The Committee voted on the two parts of the motion
separately:
A.
To adopt a Sex Establishment Policy as originally
proposed on 6th June 2011 un-amended (Agreed by 7 votes to 0).
B.
To instruct officers to carry out appropriate research,
consultation and analysis regarding the nil per ward policy agreed by committee
on 6th June 2011 and to present their findings to a subsequent
meeting of the Licensing Committee. (Rejected by 5 votes to 6)
The committee resolved (by 7 votes to 0) to:
To adopt a Sex Establishment Policy as originally proposed
on 6th June 2011 un-amended.
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