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The Licensing Officer presented the report and outlined the
Temporary Events Notice (TEN) application.
With the permission of the Chair the Applicant circulated a document at
the beginning of the meeting. The Chair allowed 10 minutes for the document to be
considered by Members and Officers.
Applicant
Mr Agar made the following points:
i.
Queried why the Environmental
Health team called the Fire and Rescue Officer to carry out an inspection on
the Friday just passed but did not notify him (the Applicant) of the meeting.
He was only informed when the fire report was produced later that day.
ii.
Highlighted that Giles Granger
from the Cambridge Fire and Rescue Service had
attended the site 3 weeks prior and had been content with the site under the
revised plan. Swapping the layout had removed the initial fire safety concerns.
iii.
Giles Granger had not yet had the
opportunity to see the additional fire report conducted on 27 October.
The Applicant therefore requested that either-
1. The
licence would be granted with a condition stating that the Fire and Rescue
Service had to approve the new revised plans.
2. The
committee was adjourned until 6 November to allow Giles Granger time to see the
report.
iv.
Highlighted that Fire and Rescue
could not make formal objections to a TEN application, only objections
from Environmental Health were considered.
v.
Asked why Environmental Health
objected to the event being held on Saturday and not on the Sunday given that
the plans were the same for both days.
vi.
Stated that he had decided to take
over this event from his friend who had been holding it successfully for the
past 10 years.
vii.
Affirmed that he had 40 years’
experience of holding successful public events.
The Legal Advisor responded:
i.
Confirmed that putting a condition on the licence
was not permitted under statute, a TEN only allowed Members to approve or
reject the application.
ii.
The Fire and Rescue Service did not appear on the
list of persons able to object to TEN’s because they had their own legislation.
However, their objection could be considered by the committee.
iii.
The Police had withdrawn their objection.
iv.
Highlighted that the committee could adjourn the
meeting which would give the committee time to consider the application
further.
Councillor Benstead asked whether the Applicant and Licensing
Enforcement Officer on behalf of Environmental Health had had an opportunity to
discuss the Fire and Rescue Service objections prior to this meeting. Suggested that if they had not then an adjournment may be
worthwhile.
The Licensing Enforcement Officer on behalf of Environmental Health
referred to the fourth paragraph on page 25 of the agenda. Highlighted that the
main concern for Environment Health was the lack of emergency access to the
site should the main entrance become obstructed. He affirmed that the revised
plan did nothing to alleviate this issue. He outlined that the metal gate under
the railway bridge could be unlocked and used as emergency access. Although
this option still raised concern a solution might be sought if the access issue
could be addressed.
After discussion the Committee decided not to adjourn proceedings.
Member Questions
In response to Members’ questions, Mr
Agar made the following statements:
i.
Confirmed that although his friend
had held this event for the past 10 years, it had never been in this location.
ii.
Affirmed that this event was
separate to Winter Fair, clear signs at the entrance would indicate this. The
opening hours to this event would be longer and entrants would also be charged
£1 fee at the gate.
iii.
Two stewards with keys would staff
the metal emergency exit gate at all times.
iv.
Confirmed that he was not aware of
any special permission needed from Network Rail to use the emergency exit. He
had no evidence that Network Rail would need to use this exit from their side
in case of an emergency.
v.
The emergency exit had disabled
access; a flat footpath ran to the side of the stairwell and away from the
site.
vi.
Outlined that the number of
attendees could be reduced from 499 to 300 if Members were concerned about
safety. Asked if this could be added as a condition to the application?
vii.
Referred to the second gate at the
top of the emergency access stairs and confirmed that he did not know who held
the key to it.
viii.
Walkie
Talkies would be given to staff so that they could speak to the control room
with ease in an emergency.
The Legal Advisor clarified
that no conditions could be added to a TEN application.
The Licensing Enforcement Officer on behalf of Environmental Health highlighted:
i.
The objection was in place for both Saturday and
Sunday but an email to the Applicant mistakenly suggested that the objection
was limited to one day only.
ii.
Stated that the emergency access gate did not lead
to a safe place in the event of an emergency.
iii.
If the gate was unlocked at all times with a
steward tending, and the top gate was also unlocked with a safe place for the
public to leave then the objection could be removed.
Members withdrew at 11:10 am and returned at
12:15 pm. Whilst retired, and having made their
decision, Members received legal advice on the wording of the decision.
Decision
The Sub Committee resolved to reject the
application for a Temporary Event Notice.
Reasons for reaching the decision were as
follows:
i.
Public safety,
as a Licence Objective, would not be fully addressed.
ii.
The
lack of a suitable Emergency Exit, would not allow patrons safely to evacuate
the site in the event of the Mill Road exit being either blocked or restricted.
This would place patrons at risk.
iii.
The
proposed Emergency Exit would result in evacuated patrons entering an area of
danger, being alongside unfenced railway track.
iv.
There
was no provision for the safe evacuation of disabled persons or any other
vulnerable persons.
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